I admit I can be fierce at times. My vulgarity is not aimed at the car, but at the self-proclaimed car lovers who noticed it goes really fast and therefor think it must be amazing. Like andrewo, who claims the Veyron has style, class and elegance. The Veyron's interior is very similar to Bentley and Audi, two of Piechts other brands. Elegance is better suited for Rolls Royces, they float. The Bugatti bombards. And style I would argue as well, the engineers clearly forgot the 1 to 1.318 golden ratio when designing the overlapping, swollen exterior. It looks like the bonnet just doesn't fit right. The Veyron itself is amazing, don't get me wrong, like I said in my first post, give brilliant Germans ten years, you will get an amazing product. Unlike the F1, CLK GTR, GT1, Enzo, Carrera GT, Zonda any many others, the Bugatti was expected, we heard about it for years before it made it's debut (I'm guessing andrewo is under 18 years old, and didn't have the chance to read about it every year preceding it's overdue release). Should it sit next to the Pontiac Aztec? In reality, no. But does it deserve a seat in the top ten? No. Top twenty, probably not.

I don't think it's the best car made today but it is undeniably a great car. I'm not a huge fan but it's hard to deny its greatness. Though I think the zonda is the best GT car today. The fact that they dont offer a manual transmission for the veyron really turns me off about it and makes me feel like it isnt a true drivers car which it isn't it's the first car that anyone could drive, and drive fast which is good in a lot of ways and IMO bad in a lot of ways. Anyone that doesn't drive a manual regularly wouldn't understand this but for me its important that for a great car you should be able to feeeel the transmission changing gears, feel the RPMs jump as you down shift, that you learn how each car feels different and learn to perfect each shift overtime for each car, I feel like paddle shifting is just too easy, it makes great cars dull and boring rather than a great car with a great manual transmission is exciting and different for every driver. But that being said the veyron is impressive, it's just not my kind of car. It's big, it's heavy, it's flashy and it's dull. I feel like its a car for rich men who don't love cars they love spending money and being seen in the "fastest most expensive car in the world". Obviously that's not true of every veyron owner, I believe it to be true of many but I have no proof behind that. We all have our own opinions though and that's what makes the car world great. And ointment I think you made some good points, points I myself have made many times, but you were just a bit rash expressing them. I agree with a lot if not all that you said but it's also important to recognize that what VW accomplished with this car is as important as Mercedes did with the clkgtr or Pagani with the zonda. I don't think it's as important as the mclaren F1 which I think is the best car ever made, and also the most important but the mclaren is an anomole. I don't know if we will ever again see a car so ahead of its time in design and engineering. Gordan Murray accomplished something impossible, and made something very special while doing it. I love and respect the mclaren, I have no love for the veyron but it's important to give it respect, it deserves it.

The Veyron is an over-stuffed drag-racer for rich lackwit old men who want to feel like their dicks aren't shriveled and useless. It took ten years for Piecht's bitches to create this money-hungry VW bug to beat the Mclaren's speed record (it only took 3 years for Murray's team to design the F1). In doing so, they created a car that is useless on a track, not true to Ettore Bugatti's style of full in-house production,and desirable only to people who can't drive. Because of how tame and pedestrian the Veyron is, it has allowed any pathetic rich fool the chance to go fast. It took Pagani, Koenigsegg, Mclaren, Mercedes and Porsche less than half that amount of time to create their greaetest modern supercars, and each of my examples don't take the fun out of driving their vehicles by tailoring to pussy's who can't handle a clutch pedal, some noise and tail spin. Isn't that what supercars for the road are all about?! Racing!?! Loud, rough, in your face behavior indicative of one soul, brutal purpose, to go around a track fastest. Anyone can throw a bunch of turbos on a car and make it fast. Ask any Subaru STI, Skyline or Supra owner. And it rarely takes them a decade to do so, and rarely costs over a million bucks. Anytime you give a bunch of well-trained Germans ten years to accomplish something, you'll get a good result. It's when a famous racing company builds the world's first full carbon fiber car for the road and kicks ass at Le Mans on accident (in addition to setting a speed record on accident), or when Mercededs AMG DTM strikes back with a wild GT1 supercar the following year, that's truly amazing. That is deserving of high praise and a special seat in the Supercar hall of fame. The Veyron deserves nothing more than to take it's seat next to the Porsche Cayenne and Pontiac Aztec in the hall of cars that would be better off forgotten.

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