cartmen220, 03 October 2013, 07:24
Rivitography wrote:
What's so great about manual?
I drive manual daily and in addition to what wtfasia said, manual is a great way to keep you from falling asleep and using your cell phone. Good luck talking to someone on the phone while holding the wheel and shifting. :P
TYI, 03 October 2013, 08:55
Mazdafreak wrote:
When I learned to drive, it was a manual. It wasn't anything fancy (1993 VW Eurovan), but it was still a manual. Almost all automatics will be faster than manuals in today's world, but I don't care; I won't ever be owning a car with one.
Andrew - Unfortunately, Lamborghini is preparing to show it's fabulous gated shifer the door. Only 1%-2% of Lamborghini's produced today are equipped with manual transmissions, and it is becoming harder and more expensive to certify and develop manual transmissions for automobiles today. Furthermore, I doubt the typical Lamborghini customer cares much at all about driver involvement, and doesn't see why they would want to shift gears in one.
TYI - I agree with you about the Alfa Romeo 4C. It will be priced against the BMW M3/M4, which I have heard has about a 40% manual take rate. It's also fairly light-weight for a modern car, and would fit with a manual perfectly.
Amos - The M5 is available with a manual (in the U.S.), but it has gotten poor reviews and from what I have heard it is overly hard to drive smoothly - even for professionals.
Jason - Any modern automatic is faster than it's manual counterpart; that's why Ferrari, Lamborghini, McLaren, and unfortunately Aston Martin have/are beginning to phase out their manuals. But a manual is much more involving. I learned to drive on one, and can honestly say that no automatic out there - whether it's a PDK, DSG, F1, E-Gear - can be as fun and involving to drive as a manual. I don't have any respect for car "enthusiasts" who buy sporty cars with automatics unless they can't physically drive them. No respect whatsoever.
Andrew - Unfortunately, Lamborghini is preparing to show it's fabulous gated shifer the door. Only 1%-2% of Lamborghini's produced today are equipped with manual transmissions, and it is becoming harder and more expensive to certify and develop manual transmissions for automobiles today. Furthermore, I doubt the typical Lamborghini customer cares much at all about driver involvement, and doesn't see why they would want to shift gears in one.
TYI - I agree with you about the Alfa Romeo 4C. It will be priced against the BMW M3/M4, which I have heard has about a 40% manual take rate. It's also fairly light-weight for a modern car, and would fit with a manual perfectly.
Amos - The M5 is available with a manual (in the U.S.), but it has gotten poor reviews and from what I have heard it is overly hard to drive smoothly - even for professionals.
Jason - Any modern automatic is faster than it's manual counterpart; that's why Ferrari, Lamborghini, McLaren, and unfortunately Aston Martin have/are beginning to phase out their manuals. But a manual is much more involving. I learned to drive on one, and can honestly say that no automatic out there - whether it's a PDK, DSG, F1, E-Gear - can be as fun and involving to drive as a manual. I don't have any respect for car "enthusiasts" who buy sporty cars with automatics unless they can't physically drive them. No respect whatsoever.
So you don't have respect for any modern Ferrari owners?
Mazdafreak, 03 October 2013, 21:46
TYI wrote:
So you don't have respect for any modern Ferrari owners?
I have seen two F430's with manual transmissions and one Gallardo with a stick as well. I guess I don't have any respect for the owners who buy the car just as a status symbol and don't particularly care about driving it. If you use it as a daily driver, fine, I'll give you that, but if it's just a weekend cruiser (which many exotics are) and you're too lazy to shift your own gears, then no, I don't have any respect for them.
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