I'm sorry, but a lot of this doesn't make sense. Yes they do have a limited time to make these games, but what is stopping them from taking the models, performance data, etc from Forza 5 (with what I'd venture to guess has equal graphics) and just past them into Horizon 2? Nothing. It's all on a computer and they probably wouldn't have to do much more than copy/paste the stuff into the data files. They don't even have to re do performance data for each car, it should stay the same from game to game, with maybe the handling being different.

Also, why would it be more expensive to add good cars? There is no reason why it should be any more expensive to add a Zonda than it would be an STI. And who says that slow tuners appeal to /most/ of the game's audience. I see almost nothing but complaints on Forza's facebook posts anymore, especially ones regarding new packs. So a majority being pleased? I find that highly doubtful.

Sorry Premier Driveblox Man. I didn't realize that you had become dictator.

...although since you asked, it's pointless. I dislike the Miata greatly, but even then, with it being such a common car, they should have "appealed to the masses" (as you would say) and already had those cars in the game when it first came out.

This is why we can't have nice things.

The next Forza MUST be different than the last ones, better customization(like Test Drive Unlimited and midnight club), more cars, more tracks, different weather and time conditions(like Project Gotham Racing), not having to pay for cars that should have already been in the game, and have garages to store your cars where you can view all of them in one place(like Test Drive Unlimited and Project Gotham Racing). If you have all or most of these things, then this game will be a winner in my eyes.

Sorry Justin, just realized that youre a complete douchebag.

Oh, the lolz

Someone who actually AGREES!

Truuuuuu. I hate that I can't even change the color of the brake calipers. And I wish stuff like decals was easier. I like to make my cars with black roofs and it's impossible to get perfect on a lot of the cars. Then yes yes yes to the rest of those things.

The reason that generally no one agrees is because you're being totally ridiculous and unreasonable.

All Justin does on this thread is say that the car packs are sh*t! Nothing else! All I keep saying is that he should keep his negative opinions to himself if that is all he's going to say!

Yes because he really does not like the cars included in them. Neither do I, they've generally been terrible. This is a forum for discussing the game and he happens to have negative opinions about the additions to the game and he is free to offer them without reproach.

I agree with so many of the things said here (Oh my God! I'm agreeing with someone!). Even if Test Drive was kind of sh*tty driving-wise, the map, garage, and customizability of the cars in the game has kind of been my benchmark for other open world games. I'd love to see a third iteration of that game, but I doubt that'll happen.

I guess I'm not allowed to express my honest opinion? Or would you rather here some manufactured bullshit about how everything the Forza people make is complete perfection and how they can do absolutely no wrong? This isn't North Korea or the USSR, saying negative opinions is allowed.

Maybe, just maybe, I'm tired of hearing how you say everything they do is so wonderful. I don't want you to say anything unless it's a negative opinion about the game. See? It works both ways.

You're supposed to keep negative comments to yourself if you are talking about another person not a video game