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Is the Veyron the best modern supercar?
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venomgt95, 09 September 2013, 11:13
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damn..

venomgt95
from Belding, Michigan
drenzo, 09 September 2013, 12:07
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andrewo wrote:
I have seen the Veyron in my town going over 100 mph twice. Once in a 45 mph zone and once in a 35 mph zone.


Anyone driving 100+ in a 35 zone should be locked up. Having a expensive car is no right to driving like a dick, or gives them the ability to in fact drive, as wrecked exotics shows.

But back to the topic I don't think the Veyron is a supercar it's a hypercar.
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DjShift, 09 September 2013, 18:45
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venomgt95 wrote:
its getting publicity from the worst rappers alive...besides maklemore


Macklemore is the worst rapper alive. Actually, he's tied with Pacx Piffy and Eminem for worst.

DjShift
from Sodus Point, New York
DjShift, 09 September 2013, 18:46
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drenzo wrote:
andrewo wrote:
I have seen the Veyron in my town going over 100 mph twice. Once in a 45 mph zone and once in a 35 mph zone.


Anyone driving 100+ in a 35 zone should be locked up. Having a expensive car is no right to driving like a dick, or gives them the ability to in fact drive, as wrecked exotics shows.

But back to the topic I don't think the Veyron is a supercar it's a hypercar.


People have mentioned that it's a supercar. That's my mistake, i just consiter anything that goes over 200 to be a supercar. I do agree it fits better as a hypercar though.

DjShift
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CTspotter458, 09 September 2013, 20:28
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DjShift wrote:
venomgt95 wrote:
its getting publicity from the worst rappers alive...besides maklemore


Macklemore is the worst rapper alive. Actually, he's tied with Pacx Piffy and Eminem for worst.

Jeez, are you like racist or something???

How can yyou not like Eminem, and like 2Chainz?

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Xuhlikhul, 09 September 2013, 20:46
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The Bugatti Veyron is a beautifully constructed, high tech, exhilarating machine-no doubt about it.

Is it the best supercar? No.

A supercar requires many ingredients; it should be exciting, fast, have a massive price tag, there are so many that I don't have time to list them all. Then from the very start, the Veyron has most, if not all of these features. But the best supercar should have a good balance of all of them. The Veyron excels greatly in several select categories; it is exciting, a huge price tag upwards of $2,000,000, and is after all, the fastest car in the world (>Venom GT), but after all, there really isn't much else. Sure, a replacement transmission costs $120,000, and it can do 268 MPH, but it lacks 'the full package'.

"The most pointless exercise on the planet has got to be this four-wheel-drive thousand-horsepower Bugatti. I think it's incredibly childish this thing people have about just one element - top speed or standing kilometer or 0–60. It's about as narrow minded as you can get as a car designer to pick on one element. It's like saying we're going to beat the original Mini because we're going to make a car 10 MPH faster on its top speed - but it's two foot longer and 200 kilos heavier. That's not car designing - that just reeks of a company who are paranoid..."

—Gordon Murray, designer of the McLaren F1

It lacks driving presence (I've never driven one, but reviews state this consistantly), and if you really think about it, what was a work of automotive art has become only a fashion accessory to the filthy rich. A supercar does show your social class and status, but it needs more than a huge price tag to be the best supercar out there.

(Look at next post for more)
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Xuhlikhul, 09 September 2013, 20:46
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I'm going to say this, and I will get a huge amount of flame for it, but I think the Lamborghini Gallardo is the best supercar out there.

It does everything well, and it isn't disappointing in a certain area. Sure, you see one more often than a Veryon, of course, but it's still a treat when you spot one. It's very popular in racing, it's got a decent price tag, it looks quite exciting, it has prestige (the brand), it's quick, it's fast, yet it isn't just a social status, or a speed demon.

I hope you get the gist of what I'm trying to say.

~Art
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CTspotter458, 09 September 2013, 20:51
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Xuhlikhul wrote:
I'm going to say this, and I will get a huge amount of flame for it, but I think the Lamborghini Gallardo is the best supercar out there.

It does everything well, and it isn't disappointing in a certain area. Sure, you see one more often than a Veryon, of course, but it's still a treat when you spot one. It's very popular in racing, it's got a decent price tag, it looks quite exciting, it has prestige (the brand), it's quick, it's fast, yet it isn't just a social status, or a speed demon.

I hope you get the gist of what I'm trying to say.

~Art

I agreed that it is better than the veyron, but not the best ever imo

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drenzo, 10 September 2013, 11:30
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Xuhlikhul wrote:
I'm going to say this, and I will get a huge amount of flame for it, but I think the Lamborghini Gallardo is the best supercar out there.

It does everything well, and it isn't disappointing in a certain area. Sure, you see one more often than a Veryon, of course, but it's still a treat when you spot one. It's very popular in racing, it's got a decent price tag, it looks quite exciting, it has prestige (the brand), it's quick, it's fast, yet it isn't just a social status, or a speed demon.

I hope you get the gist of what I'm trying to say.

~Art


It's a rhetorical question the Veyron is a Hypercar, not a supercar. What is the criteria for "best supercar" fastest, best handling, pure driver car? Well if that was the criteria the Gallardo would be beaten various cars. If you are talking "prestige" (the brand) well Bugatti has a very good pedigree, but then again so does Jaguar. If you are talking about speed for a "decent price" GT-R? I don't think anyone buys a Lambo for there racing pedigree, in fact I would say most is for "social status" Look how many modified ones there are (wheels and wraps) they want to be seen. As for "speed demon" look at the underground racing Lambo's these 1000-1500 TT versions.

Gordon Murray "The most pointless exercise on the planet has got to be this four-wheel-drive thousand-horsepower Bugatti"

What about putting a titanium tool kit on a car driven by rich people who never spanner? Or giving them a watch to match the car? Or putting a lightweight stereo in a pure car, or lining the engine bay in gold. Or creating a 240 MPH car for the road.

Lamborghini Veneno = Hypercar
Lamborghini Gallardo = Supercar
But how is a Gallardo ( which version ?) better than say (many variants also)....
Audi R8
Ferrari 458
Mclaren MP4-12C
Porsche 911 GT3
Mercedes SLS AMG
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Xuhlikhul, 10 September 2013, 15:00
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Hi Drenzo,

Maybe I should have worded my response a little bit more clearly. It seems that you don't quite understand what I am trying to say. I'll first address the price. I didn't mean a cheap price; I meant a price that still gets people excited. Costing upwards of $200,000, they still make people go 'wow'.

Of course people don't buy Lamborghini's for their racing pedigree; they only raced F1 for 4 years. My point was that they're still good vehicles on the track. I don't care what people buy them for; if they want to get laid in their machines, OK, fine. As a well focused performance automobile, it's very well engineered.

Now when you talk about it's competitors, that comes down to opinion. That's why I said, 'I THINK'. All of the cars have very similar performance, but the best performing care out of all of them is most likely the McLaren, but the MP4 is restrained, if you know what I mean. The car is too focused on solely performance, which is fine, but the best supercar should not be focused a single element. Again, that's what I believe. You can think what you want.

I never said anything about the McLaren being the best supercar of all time. It was a race car that they also made for the road. It was very bare bone and very track focused. When it debuted, it was made to be the best performing car in the world, and Murray wasn't concerned about making a well balanced car.

~Art
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